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Post by tallguy on Oct 20, 2023 16:25:20 GMT
Hi there, All. Nice to see that this project isn't dead! I'm a Sundogger from way back in the day. Apple ][e. (I think we had the e by then. I started on a II plus.) If memory serves I bought the game in January of 1985. (So after The Last Starfighter but before Ladyhawke to go all Ready Player One on you.) I played both the Apple version and later the Atari. Frankly I had more fun on the Apple. Partly because I had an analog joystick that you could make either spring centered or floating. With a floating stick you could track pirates like nobody's business. I used to load up half a cargo with junk and go looking for pirates. I'd grab their cargo and then jettison whichever was better. Then when I got two holds full I'd go sell. Profit! It always bugged me that even after I blew up every pirate I ever met threatening them still never worked. Also, I don't know if this loophole was on the Atari but on the Apple you could make a distress call for fuel but if you never landed on any of the planets in the system you never had to pay! (I think your bank also had to be empty in that system?) So I picked a "stopover" system to refuel for free. I still fire up my Apple emulator from time to time to play. I decided to go looking for this place when I read that the president of Bethesda cited Sundog as an inspiration for Starfield!
-- Tallguy
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Kailef
BETA MANAGER
Vanguard of the leading edge
Posts: 424
Played SUNDOG on what OS?: Apple
What year did you first play SUNDOG?: 1985 (I think)
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Post by Kailef on Oct 29, 2023 20:40:28 GMT
Great to have you here! While you're right that the project isn't dead, it's looking a little pale these days, and from what I understand it's starting to get a hankering to eat brains. *chuckle*
Seriously though, we're still here, and although development is pretty slow at this point, the project is still officially active and you can still join up (as you've done) and become a beta tester.
Every once in a while a new game comes out and the developers of that game cite Sundog as an inspiration, and boom, we get a bunch of new beta testers. So, I'll keep the lights on here as long as I can! I don't have control of the sundogresurrectionproject.com domain itself, but the sundogresurrection.boards.net are independent of that, so even in a worst case scenario where thesundogresurrectionproject.com domain is lost, I'll go buy a new domain and repoint wikis and keep us going. (Of course of boards.net goes belly up, I can't do much about that)
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Francois424
Beta Tester
Posts: 89
Home Planet: Snowball
Played SUNDOG on what OS?: AtariST
What year did you first play SUNDOG?: 1986
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Post by Francois424 on Nov 4, 2023 6:21:53 GMT
Hi there, All. Nice to see that this project isn't dead! I'm a Sundogger from way back in the day. Apple ][e. (I think we had the e by then. I started on a II plus.) If memory serves I bought the game in January of 1985. (So after The Last Starfighter but before Ladyhawke to go all Ready Player One on you.) I played both the Apple version and later the Atari. Frankly I had more fun on the Apple. Partly because I had an analog joystick that you could make either spring centered or floating. With a floating stick you could track pirates like nobody's business. I used to load up half a cargo with junk and go looking for pirates. I'd grab their cargo and then jettison whichever was better. Then when I got two holds full I'd go sell. Profit! It always bugged me that even after I blew up every pirate I ever met threatening them still never worked. Also, I don't know if this loophole was on the Atari but on the Apple you could make a distress call for fuel but if you never landed on any of the planets in the system you never had to pay! (I think your bank also had to be empty in that system?) So I picked a "stopover" system to refuel for free. I still fire up my Apple emulator from time to time to play. I decided to go looking for this place when I read that the president of Bethesda cited Sundog as an inspiration for Starfield!
-- Tallguy
Welcome. Fitting that you used the page in the manual that teaches how to move (then fire) in SunDog. Oooo Nice trick about the free refuel. Just make sure yoiu get all the Cryogens off all the towns/planets before or it's gonna sting when you go there later About Starfield, I am very sad to say SunDog, a 25 years old game, is still FAR better. At least the trading/ship/space part of it. I'm not much into shooters so I got tired of the game real quickly. I didn't like the graphical style they went with either. I wanted Starfield to be good, I really wanted it to. But it's all about planet missions and the ship parts are skipped and/or boring (I'd rather load up Wing Commander One with the Special missions 1 and 2 packs for space fighting like that). SunDog is sill a top Dog. No questions asked ! -- See you Around.
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Kailef
BETA MANAGER
Vanguard of the leading edge
Posts: 424
Played SUNDOG on what OS?: Apple
What year did you first play SUNDOG?: 1985 (I think)
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Post by Kailef on Nov 4, 2023 19:17:28 GMT
About Starfield, I am very sad to say SunDog, a 25 years old game, is still FAR better. At least the trading/ship/space part of it. I'm not much into shooters so I got tired of the game real quickly. I didn't like the graphical style they went with either. I wanted Starfield to be good, I really wanted it to. But it's all about planet missions and the ship parts are skipped and/or boring (I'd rather load up Wing Commander One with the Special missions 1 and 2 packs for space fighting like that). SunDog is sill a top Dog. No questions asked ! -- See you Around. I haven't played Starfield yet, and it's a bummer to hear you say that - I was really hoping that it would be good! Maybe I'll still like it, but I was really hoping for the ship parts to be cool - That's one of the things I really loved about Sundog.
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Francois424
Beta Tester
Posts: 89
Home Planet: Snowball
Played SUNDOG on what OS?: AtariST
What year did you first play SUNDOG?: 1986
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Post by Francois424 on Nov 16, 2023 1:33:11 GMT
Feel free to give it a try, but it's FAR MORE like the online game SWTOR (Star Wars: The Old Republic) - in fact now that I think about it, it really *IS* a lot like it, in MANY regards. You can design your ship and it takes a while to get used to the interface to do that, but like I said... I didn't fond the limited "Sundog elements" very good. It's a solid 5-to-7 out of 10, depending how much you like Bethesda-style game and mission hunting with a gun. I'd say wait until it finds it's way to the discount bin and get it there. If it was 40$ instead of 90$ (Canadian $ mind you), then I could recommend the purchase.
But as they say, YMMV.
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